A BIG WING ON A FWD CAR IS NON-FUNCTIONAL!

"MonkeePuzzle" (monkeypuzzle) 05/12/2014 at 10:45 • Filed to: None

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Or is it? Look at how it keeps the snow off of the upper section of my rear window. TAKE THAT ANTI-WINGERS!

Nibby > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 10:47

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ADDS 15 HP YO

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 10:50

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'Twould be interesting to see whether it has a net positive or net negative effect on dirt on the rear window.

MonkeePuzzle > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 05/12/2014 at 10:51

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parents Previa/Tarago back in the day had a wing that brochure said was to deflect wind down onto the rear window to aid in keeping it clear of debris

RazoE > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 10:54

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Wings useless on a FWD car you say?!?

ly2v8-Brian > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 10:54

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Nice size reference

OPPOsaurus WRX > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 10:55

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MonkeePuzzle > OPPOsaurus WRX 05/12/2014 at 10:57

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I believe I've used this team's time attack vehicle in defense of FWD wings myself :D

OPPOsaurus WRX > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 10:58

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Yea, wont see that on the street too often though.

MonkeePuzzle > OPPOsaurus WRX 05/12/2014 at 10:59

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if popup headlights were banned because of the impact they'd have on a pedestrian in a crash, I suspect a decapitating front wing might be also frowned upon

CPT Speedbump > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 11:00

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I'd imagine that stability at high speeds is pretty functional, js

Stupidru > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 11:01

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I would tend to think it's simply less helpful than if it were on the driven wheels, but you do want weight on the rear wheels... if I were at highway speed I'd need new pants if my rear end just decided to walk out on me

Jayhawk Jake > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 05/12/2014 at 11:04

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I can confirm it is negative.

With my wing the rear hatch under the wing gets absolutely filthy

Jayhawk Jake > Stupidru 05/12/2014 at 11:05

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Exactly. I've never understood the hate. Sure, it's probably not as helpful as it is on a RWD car, but grip is grip.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Jayhawk Jake 05/12/2014 at 11:07

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At least it blocks some sunlight... I guess.

Frank Grimes > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 11:08

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But i you didnt have a wing where would you put your grilled cheese when clearing the window?

MonkeePuzzle > Frank Grimes 05/12/2014 at 11:08

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I'd have to just put it on the car's roof, LIKE AN ANIMAL!

Jayhawk Jake > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 05/12/2014 at 11:10

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It looks cool

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Jayhawk Jake 05/12/2014 at 11:12

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Well, yeah. It's like a mullet for your car.

thebigbossyboss > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 11:15

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Is that why they were banned?

Reigntastic > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 11:21

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So... Want to sell me your civic?

MonkeePuzzle > Reigntastic 05/12/2014 at 11:26

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yes, many monies please

MonkeePuzzle > thebigbossyboss 05/12/2014 at 11:28

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I believe so, other pedestrian friendly changes require a gap between the hood and the engine, something I believe the new GTR has expensive explosive shocks to accommodate

nope, appears that was Jaaaaaaguar http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/02/nis…

505 - morphine not found > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 11:28

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A big wing on an fwd car can in deed be functional. Especially if it's a hatchback, like the Civic pictured: these get all kinds of turbulence behind the car sucking it backwards, and these roof-mounted wigs try to counter this

As well as that, FWD cars can get too light back there too, which is just as problematic, as with RWD cars. Remember, how the first gen TT got it's small winglet back in the day? It got it because in high-speed cornering the back came loose.

So yes, FWD cars can has wingz too, and not just for show either. At least not if it's got more than a 1.6 with 90HP.

MonkeePuzzle > 505 - morphine not found 05/12/2014 at 11:32

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"hatchback... ...roof-mounted wigs"

Tareim - V8 powered > Jayhawk Jake 05/12/2014 at 11:37

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The hate is purely derived from those who don't have a clue what they are on about

505 - morphine not found > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 11:46

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LOL SILY MONKEY THAT'S A CLIO V6, NO AMOUNT OF WING WILL KEEP YOU FACING FORWARD IN THAT

Stupidru > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 11:51

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Nice OPPO sticker!

MonkeePuzzle > 505 - morphine not found 05/12/2014 at 11:52

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I'm just stunned googling "car wig" got me a usable image :D

505 - morphine not found > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 12:01

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Yeah, i wish all typos led to such enlightening experiencces

Reigntastic > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 12:04

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I sell cash and cash accessories, I am sure we could reach a mutual agreement regarding the required amount of monies.

spanfucker retire bitch > 505 - morphine not found 05/12/2014 at 12:05

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Yep. Very few hatchbacks these days don't have a little spoiler in back for all of the reasons you mentioned.

The one in OP's is still ridiculously oversized, however.

HammerheadFistpunch > 505 - morphine not found 05/12/2014 at 12:11

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Yes, this. The "wing" is just there to move the boundary layer further back and reduce the low pressure zone behind the car, reducing drag.

MonkeePuzzle > Reigntastic 05/12/2014 at 12:14

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I also accept subarus of specific types and genres in exchange

MonkeePuzzle > 505 - morphine not found 05/12/2014 at 12:15

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yes, many a googled typo has merely proved Rule 34 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_34_(…

Reigntastic > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 12:19

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Let's talk specifics! MR2 needs a garage buddy.

MonkeePuzzle > Reigntastic 05/12/2014 at 12:25

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realistically, probably worth $5-6k. but when accounting for sentimental value, knowing I'm its second owner and basically its complete history, it being a certified used car before that, all my custom touches, etc etc, I would only let it go for something obscene like $10k.

Or for trade of a clean GC or Bugeye subaru :D

ChiTownScootz > 505 - morphine not found 05/12/2014 at 12:27

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This^

Reigntastic > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 12:28

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Yeah, it's a really nice car for what it is. I've been looking for Civic Hatchbacks as a commuter, and they can really range anywhere from 1500-6 depending on condition, I have seen some with lots of work or clean swaps easily go for more though. Sentimental value is real, no doubt about it.

Time to find a Bugeye to flip :)

Moose Kitty > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 12:48

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A wing that actually has positive downforce affect can help with weight distribution while driving and it adds weight to the rear of the car since most of the weigh is at the front with a fwd car.

MonkeePuzzle > Moose Kitty 05/12/2014 at 12:51

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new wing weighs less than the factory wing though, well not taking into account any aerodynamic "weight" added at speed

Moose Kitty > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 14:09

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http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/time-to-mess-w…

I totally agree with you. I was talking more about aero affects than the actual weight of the wing since it's so little (depending on the material used) in comparison to the downforce "weight".

Klaus Schmoll > MonkeePuzzle 05/12/2014 at 14:34

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The wing on my 626 GE hatch would actually prevent a tiny section of the rear window from freezing. Not much, but just enough to safely back out of parking spots etc.